Level 4 Certificate for Music Educators

Anyone got any news on where this has got to?

I understand that this is going live in September but I don't seem to able to find out where, who or how it is being delivered. Can anyone shed some light on this?

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anita holford's picture

Hi Jacqui,

According to Sound Sense's Bulletin Board enews (members only!):

Certificate gets a little closer
The level 4 certificate for music educators gets a little closer, writes Kathryn Deane, with a round of consultations between the “awarding organisations” (Trinity Guildhall and ABRSM) and the “providers” (who might actually deliver the certificate on the ground). Good points: these providers could be community music organisations, and many others; and you should be able to mix and match your “units” of learning between providers. Bad points: then it all gets very messy. And probably expensive. We’ll keep an eye on developments.

Source: Sound Sense's enews - find out more at www.soundsense.org

Jacqui Haigh's picture

Thanks Anita, this is very useful. I will check Sound Sense's enews and keep my ear to the ground!

Sound Sense's picture

Oh, and Jacqui - "going live" in September is probably now aspirational: we were talking about it at MEC exec today. "Be ready for the providers to do their bit" by Sept is probably closer to the mark.

We'll keep people posted.

Kathryn Deane

Jacqui Haigh's picture

Thanks Kathryn. It would be very useful to know how potential providers can prepare and I will wait to hear developments.

Siggy Patchitt's picture

This is all very interesting, and the timing could be good as we are looking to relaunch our approach to recruitment, induction and CPD of the freelance workforce from September. If this fits, it could possibly be something that helps to underline the common levels of skill and professionalism between the community/participatory and formal music education sectors' workforces (e.g. Hub workforces).

Although we all know the level that all these people work at, we're still getting teachers hovering around at the beginning of a session to 'make sure the Music Leader knows what they're doing.' This could be one way of helping put minds to rest.

tronlady's picture

I have enrolled on the Music Educator Course at Access to Music York and it seems to have a different syllabus to the CME mentioned here. It is indeed a level 4 CTLLS course however. Can anyone shed any light on this please? Are they the same course?

Sound Sense's picture

Hello, no they're not the same course. They're the same level and type (4, certificate) but different syllabuses, and aims. A CTLLS is a certificate in teaching in the lifelong learning sector - mainly required for teachers in the further and adult ed sectors. But there is some interest in using it as a bass for learning to teach in community music settings, too - eg CM in London runs courses leading to a PTLLS (preparing to teach, etc, described as the ‘threshold license to teach’ for FE and adult ed). I don't know the AtM syllabus, so can't say how relevant it is to community music work.
Hope this help
Kathryn Deane, Sound Sense

chriswalters321's picture

Hi all - I'm the person leading on the development of Trinity's version of the CME (ABRSM is developing its own version).

I would firstly direct you to this blog I have just written for the ISM website: http://www.ism.org/blog/article/the-bigger-picture-part-2 It tells you how the Trinity CME has been developed and more information about what it is and who it is aimed at.

In terms of timings, the Trinity CME was accredited by Ofqual in mid-July and we will start validating providers in September. (Providers are organisations that will offer the Trinity CME, and validation is to do with ensuring that all providers will support and assess their learners effectively.) Validation may take three or four months, so it's possible that the first providers will be ready to open their doors to learners in early 2014. Trinity will publish details of providers as soon as they are validated, and anyone interested in taking the Trinity CME should contact a provider.

I'm happy to answer any further questions - please email christopher.walters@trinitycollege.co.uk

anita holford's picture

Thanks Chris, that's really helpful. I've shared that you've responded on the Musical Inclusion networks too.

chriswalters321's picture

Hi all - just an update - the Specification and Validation Requirements for prospective Trinity CME centres are now available at www.trinitycollege.co.uk/cme. This means that the first centres could be validated in a few months' time, with more to follow in the new year. For learners, Trinity will publish centres' details online as soon as this information is available.

chriswalters321's picture

Hi all - just an update - the Specification and Validation Requirements for prospective Trinity CME centres are now available at www.trinitycollege.co.uk/cme. This means that the first centres could be validated in a few months' time, with more to follow in the new year. For learners, Trinity will publish centres' details online as soon as this information is available.