All of us working in music education need to measure what we do. We set goals in the form of numbers, percentages or outcomes; and we measure against them. We do this for our own business planning, monitoring and evaluation1; for reporting to our funders such as Arts Council England (ACE)2 through the hubs data return; and for demonstrating our value and impact to potential commissioners of services or funders. So how can music services and their hub partners measure becoming more inclusive? What KPIs, outputs and outcomes should we be integrating into our plans for equality, diversity and inclusion? This was the topic for discussion in the National Music Services Working Group on Inclusion in September.